Cash Consistent, Recession Resistant: The Power of Sustainer Giving

What if your donors felt just as essential to your mission as the people you serve?

In this episode of the Sustainable Giving podcast, host ⁠Dave Raley⁠ sits down with ⁠Tina Hudgins⁠, a seasoned fundraiser, consultant, and educator who has spent her career helping organizations build donor-centric cultures that spark lasting generosity. From her days pioneering sustainer programs at International Justice Mission to her current work with Philanthropy and Fundraising of North America (PFNA), Tina brings a wealth of insight, energy, and heart to the conversation.

Together, Dave and Tina explore how recurring giving isn’t just a strategy. It’s a movement. They talk about the power of sustainer programs to weather economic storms, the lessons from bold experiments in event-based giving, and how nonprofits can reframe their culture to honor donors as much as beneficiaries.

Key Topics They Cover:

  1. Sustainer Giving as “C²R²”: Tina’s mantra — cash consistent, recession resistant — and how monthly giving creates stability and freedom for planning and innovation.

  2. Event-Based Acquisition in Action: The powerful story of the IF:Gathering event, where IJM invited thousands of women to become Freedom Partners through a deeply integrated, mission-driven experience.

  3. The Freedom Partner Journey: How IJM cultivated monthly donors — from $5 givers to $5,000/month partners — through storytelling, access, and intentional community.

  4. Donor-Centric Culture: Why nonprofits must treat donors as equally important as beneficiaries, and how this shift transforms revenue, retention, and relationships.

  5. Budgets & Boldness: Tina’s framework for acquisition, retention, and innovation budgets, and why learning itself should be considered a KPI.

They Also Talk About:

  • Why asking major donors for recurring gifts actually deepens commitment (without reducing larger gifts).

  • How to make events more than “one-time fundraising moments” by embedding them in your mission story.

  • What it looks like when every staff member is equipped to tell your organization’s story, even in a 14-floor elevator ride.

  • Why cultural transformation is the secret to long-term growth (200–1000% revenue gains over time!).

How can your organization start seeing itself through the eyes of your donors?

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Special thanks to our team at Sustainable Giving: Abigail, Tom, Kirsten, and Victoria.

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